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FRANK (CAT) LARSON
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From:TEXAS
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posted 06-25-2002 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for FRANK (CAT) LARSON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
A couple of weeks ago, I saw a “48 Hours” special. It dealt with American women & children being mistreated by Saudi Arabian husbands, after the wives decided to leave and/or divorce them. Some women were unable to leave Saudi Arabia, and some were back in the U.S., but their children were still there, unable to leave. The Saudi husbands had invoked strict Islamic rules to either keep the wives from leaving, or to keep the children there. The show covered scenes of American wives/mothers, their parents, and grandparents pleading and crying to an American government committee (Senators, Congressmen, & other officials). Of course, they were crying foul, and wanting the U.S. government to take up their cause.

While I sympathize with the children being affected by all this, I can’t help but ask the question: Why did these stupid fucking women marry and have children with men from that part of the world?! Were they so desparate to get a man that they would accept the life and restrictions that came with marrying these assholes and bearing their children in a middle-east country? None of the women that I saw were what you would call “attractive mates” - not from the perspective of an American man, anyway. They all looked like fat hairy-legged, sloppy, “trailer-trash” women. Or, maybe the women had heard that many Saudi men are wealthy, and were just after their money. If that be the case, were they so STUPID, that they believed they could get away with it, after marrying them, moving to their country, and having their babies in that country?! Whether they were desparate or money-mongers is really irrelevant. What is relevant is that they married the bastards, moved to their country, and had their babies there. Did they not know of the radical beliefs of Islamists? Did they not know, or try to find out beforehand, about the laws of those countries, with respect to women? It is real difficult to lend any support to these women, when even a high school student knows how it is over there. I say THEY KNEW, but they were so eager to have those men, for whatever reason, that they ignored the facts. Now, they want somebody to come to their aid, and get the children and daughters out of there.

Fuck that! I have made my feelings about people from the middle east well known on this site. Now, I include in that “group”, these U.S. women, who threw themselves at the scum from over there, knowing full-well that they were risking not only their freedom, but any children born there, as well. It’s the children I really have sympathy for. They are being forced to live as “step-children” in a country that has no qualms about mistreating them. They force some of them into what essentially would be regarded as “isolation” here, and do not feed them properly. Some of them are kept locked in a room, and made to eat on the floor, with little or no clothing, and no medical aid. The sand-trash that conceived them don’t want them, but won’t let them return to America, either. The Saudi husbands are despicable, disgusting beings that should not be classified with the human race. They belong in a class with snakes. Maybe, one day, we’ll be lucky enough to kill a few million of them. The wives/mothers - I say let them go back to Saudi Arabia and live with their chosen mate as an Arabic wife, and accept the destiny they chose - to be subservient, 2nd-class, slaves to their reptilian husbands. As a matter of fact, I’d like to see the women go back to Saudi Arabia (or stay, as the case may be), and the children sent back to the U.S. to be with their grandparents or other family members. Keep the women there! They are as bad as the Saudi men, for choosing them as a mate. If they will lower their standards enough to marry one of those middle-eastern pricks, then they definitely don’t belong in America. As far as the U.S. expending any effort or money to get the women back from there, or re-unite them with their children - no fucking way! (unless they agree to stay or go back and let the children return to America) Even if the children have to be considered mix-blood, which in itself is a shame, at least we could get them back over here and expose them to a life that, hopefully, will make them mistrust and dislike the Islamic life, and grow up to be happy, healthy Americans. The women are already stigmatic. They have already demonstrated their stupidity, and willingness to crawl on the ground with their Saudi mates. Let them stay or go back. We don’t need that type of woman in America, anyway. We already have enough low-class, ignorant, opportunistic women in this country. They deserve the life they chose - a life in a country with no regard for women and children, except for their ability to serve the men and commit suicide for the Islamic cause. It makes me sick to even think of them and what they have done – and then cry to the U.S. government for help, afterwards. They are low-life BITCHES. Anybody got any spare snakeskin to send them for clothing? Oh, and for any women out there, right now, contemplating marrying a man of Islam….don’t be stupid! He doesn’t want you for love…he wants you for sexual relief, domestic caretaking, and to degrade, whenever he feels the need. If you haven’t learned that by now...well, maybe you deserve to marry him and go with him, to his snake-den. Just don’t come back. Stay over there and accept the conditions you choose. If you would expose a child to that country and its’ religious extremists, you are a slut, anyway, and don’t belong in America.

That brings up a question…in the case of those American women who are now back in America, but whose children are still in Saudi Arabia…..how did THAT happen? Did they voluntarily leave Saudi, leaving their children behind, without any protest? Did they choose to return to America, even if their children were kept behind by the Saudi husbands? OMG!! Then, they deserve their misery...AND A WHOLE LOT MORE!

Enough said. I pray that just ONE of those bitches reads this. That, in addition to a Saudi man reading this, is my satisfaction. May they all go to Hell in a handbasket…together.

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monica
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posted 06-27-2002 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for monica     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
When I was younger my mother made me watch the movie "Not Without My Daughter". She said it was to teach me a lesson about marrying men of Middle Eastern Descent.
Honestly, I would never ever marry a man of Middle Eastern Descent, not because of my mother, but because of the way their culture operates. I try my best to accept people of all cultures and races, but it is really hard to accept people who think and are conditioned by society to believe that women's sole purpose is to be servants to men and beating and belittling them is acceptable. Maybe there are exceptions to the rule, but most men from Middle East that I met seem to have this attitude towards women.
I have a small example, an incident which happened to me the other day, and has happened before many times. I was going towards an exit door at the same time as a Middle Eastern man and he pushed his way towards the front in a totally rude manner. Most men in America usually allow ladies to go first and some gentlemen even open the door for the lady to go through, so I was kind of surprised and a little ticked. I am not saying that he should have opened the door for me, but I WAS FIRST, so WHY did he push his way in front of me??? It did not happen just once, it happened many times.
I know this is just a small incident, but it speaks alot for how these men were raised to view and treat women. He goes first, I have to wait and go second...I am a second class citizen in his eyes!
So as far as me, I would never marry a man who carries this type of attitude towards women.
Now what would be the solution to this problem? My opinion is that here isn't any, unless all their children are raised to respect and value women as equals.

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FRANK (CAT) LARSON
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posted 06-27-2002 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FRANK (CAT) LARSON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your supportive statement, Monica. I remember the movie well…but, I had forgotten about it when I was writing…I was so angry. The movie was a classical representation of just what I was talking about. Can you believe some women still didn’t pay any heed?! I guess they never saw or heard about the movie. Yes, you are right on about them – that’s the way they are with women. They are worse with women than the white man was with blacks. Maybe the network needs to re-cycle that show, again. But, you know what? It wouldn’t matter…there will ALWAYS be women out there whose goal is just to get a man, at any cost….like I said, out of desparation, or out of greed (not to mention stupidity). These women will marry and conceive with the low-lifes, they will go to their country, get disillusioned, and then, when they find out what little rights they have, will be on Capitol Hill crying for our government to bail them out! It’s a natural cycle. Maybe we should make the show required watching in school for all females. Of course the minority rights groups would protest and our lawmakers would just capitulate to the issue.
It’s getting to be so sad...so sad. Glad to hear you recognize these lizards for what they are – disciples of a culture bent on the destruction of all that’s good and decent. By the way, your mother must have been (be?) a real insightful person. I praise her.

CAT

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goddessllp
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posted 08-05-2002 11:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for goddessllp     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Frank, I wanted to get your opinion on those 2 American missionarys' that bawled to come back to America from Middle East after Sept. 11th. Now that our country has them back in America they feel that they want to go back and do more work in Middle East. I say let them go, and forget they exist!!!!! Next time let their cries fall on deaf ears!! One more example of organized religion!! They feel they must save everyone at the cost of their own lives!!!! Noone over there cares about Christianity, and they sure as hell are not going to convert to it!!!!! The middle easterners are more interested in converting Christians to kill in the name of Allah!!!!!!!Oh the heroism of these 2 girls, playing the martyr for their beloved God!!!!!!!!Do they not realize most do not see them as Maryrs, or Heroes, but naive,stupid idiots who are a waste of Americas time. If they want to truly do some good, and be a hero then go fight the war on terrorism like the rest of us have to in some way or another!! By the way anyone out there reading this, Here is yet another example of Middle Easterners opinions of women. I went into the 7-11 the other day, where only middle eastern men work. There was a very young middle eastern boy working there. There was a woman in front of me purchasing 3 items. The store employee did not greet her, and took about 10 mins to bag her 3 items, nor did he say "Have a nice Day" as she was leaving. I bought a lighter, and instantly this yound boy made a sour hateful face at me. He must have been fresh off the boat, cause he could barely speak English yet. When I asked him to repeat the price, he very rudely said, "I said, $1.05. He also did not greet me, and did not wish me a good day. I watched the man behind me in line go up to the counter out of curiosity. The store clerk said "Hi, how are you? He quickly bagged his 5 items, and said, "Have a nice day" as the man was leaving. I work in customer service, and do not even treat my worst customers with this attitude. And believe me they can get pretty bad!!! It is all I can do to treat middle easterners nicely when I am at work, but I manage to do it for the sake of the job. Believe me it is definitely not because I have a politically correct bleeding heart, or care about there human rights!!!! As far as I'm concerned they are not human!! They are robot killing machines programmed to kill by some entity they call Allah!! Head robot being Osama Bin Laden.

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posted 08-08-2002 01:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zeus_daughter2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sniff, sniff, sniff.... Fe, fi, fo, fum I think me smells the whiff of Klansmen blood.

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FRANK (CAT) LARSON
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posted 08-08-2002 08:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for FRANK (CAT) LARSON     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by goddessllp:
Hi Frank, I wanted to get your opinion on those 2 American missionarys' that bawled to come back to America from Middle East after Sept. 11th.

Hi, goddessllp. My opinion? Gee, thanks...I didn't know it mattered. Seriously.....My opinion is that they are puppets of organized religion, with little or no self-esteem. They probably have nothing to contribute to American society, other than their religious fanaticism, so they have directed their missionary idealism at a culture they believe to be susceptible to the liberating words of their creator. I believe that they are looking for a way to validate their own existence in a country where they can take advantage of widespread ignorance, poverty, and strife. And, I believe that they should be totally ignored, and left to "suffer the consequences of their actions", as you implied. Their actions are nothing more than self-ingratiating gestures that, as you pointed out, means nothing to those people other than a way to get food, medical attention, etc. Those same people will support terrorism against America, "in a New York minute". I don't really care what they do, so long as our government and our taxes aren't used in any way, to assist them. Let the churches play a part in supporting their folly. The next time they find themselves in dire straights, let them call on the churches for bail-out. Oh, and, as for your experience in the diaper-head convenience store.....that's typical. Personally...I'd "walk a mile for a camel", rather than do business with any of them.
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Originally posted by zeus_daughter2:
Sniff, sniff, sniff.... Fe, fi, fo, fum I think me smells the whiff of Klansmen blood.

Nay, Lassie. What makes ya think the whiff of "Klansmen" blood is in the air? Is that with a "K", or a "C"? Gosh & begorra! Have ya no tolerance for our zeal? Are ya certain that the whiff that passed by yer nose wasn't the "whiffy" odor of Middle-Eastern depravity? I canna believe ya associated me with Klansmen. Ours is a nobler cause. Ye've broken me 'eart, dear. I think of myself as an exteeemely tolerant lad. Why....I even have a tendency, on occasion, to like barristers! Gotta go now, lassie...dunna want to miss a good cross-burnin' tonite.

CAT

(Hey...all toungue-in-cheek - ya know your in my heart )

Oh, oh, oh...it just occurred to me (fe, fi, fo, fum - the whiff) - it's all those beans Jack the Englishman has been eating. You'd better pray the Giant doesn't come around - talk about "whiffy"!!!

[This message has been edited by FRANK (CAT) LARSON (edited 08-08-2002).]

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strider
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posted 02-22-2006 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for strider     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi
just wanna gve you another perspective. I am a british nurse very much in love with my SAUDI husband we have a 2yr old son. My husband has made everything as easy as possible for me to leave should i ever feel i cannot take the environment any longer. He has put a multiple exit visa in my passport allowing me to leave whenever i wish and he has given me control of mine and our sons passports. he has also obtained the legal document required giving his permission for me to take our son out of the country. this permission will last as long as the passport. That means at any stage i can just go to the airport get a ticket and leave wiht my son and my husband would not know. We have moved several times finally settling in the diplomatic quarter of Riyadh. This has all been to make my life more comfortable nd as near "normal" as possible. My family adore my husband and my mother has been over here on numerous occasions. My husbands family though speak no english and my arabic is very limited always make me feel so welcome. last year my mother came with me to stay with them and i never have a problem staying there without my husband, though he has been banned from visiting without me!!!!!!
My husband is far from rich i am not your trailer trash as american wives are described. so let me put the record straight there are plenty of very happy women from the west here who accept the culture for what it is but also look forward to seeing and being part of the change to come. we do not try to change our partners as they do not try to change us we accpet and learn from each other and everyday more we stay here cope with the trials and tribulations of such a culture we realise and our husbands realise just how much we must love each other

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Zeus_Daughter_2
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posted 02-24-2006 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Zeus_Daughter_2     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Its wrong of you to sterotype those women as stupid. That would be like me sterotyping you as an asshole without even knowing you, but its easy to do ain't it?

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me
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posted 02-12-2009 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for me     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My American husband just accepted a job to Jeddah in Saudi...I'm muslim and from Middle East, although not from Saudi...I have NO desire to move there and I have tried to convince him repeatedly not to do so as well. He has never lived or even traveled outside of US but is convinced he(we) will be happy there for 5-10 years as the recruiter has convinced him of such. Does anyone on this site have any ideas on how it will go over with my husband there? Will he like it? I am hoping he will see that I wasn't lying to keep him here, but that its not a good place for him to live.
Any advice?

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