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<TABLE BORDER=0 cellpadding=4 border=0 cellspacing=1 WIDTH="95%"><TR bgcolor="#e6e6e6"><TD COLSPAN=2><CENTER><FONT SIZE="2" COLOR="#000080" FACE="Arial, Verdana">T O P I C R E V I E W</font></CENTER></TD></TR><TR bgcolor="#dedede"><TD valign=top><FONT SIZE="2" FACE="Arial, Verdana">markfrank</FONT></TD><TD><FONT SIZE="2" FACE="Arial, Verdana">Dave Graham, RBC, Reality Bar Crawl, Fathem Entertainment: Breach of Contract, Fraud, Lies, Incompetence.<P>David Graham of Las Vegas was formally associated with Reality Bar Crawl and Fathem Entertainment. He is the most disorganized, unprofessional person I’ve dealt with in 30 years of business! I’ve never heard so many excuses! Big talk, NO action! <P>We paid Reality Bar Crawl and Fathem Entertainment thousands of dollars to promote our new products. He breached our written contract in a dozen different ways, lost or stole our products and promotional items, which are worth $2,000.<P>Russell Lowry (Dallas) one of the other owners of Reality Bar Crawl and Fathem Entertainment (along with Gregory Heyne) told me that even Fathem’s business partner, the large multi-location BAR Management Group would not deal directly with Dave Graham and cancelled many of their planned events.<P>Russ told me they fired Dave Graham due to incompetence. They wanted to file a lawsuit, but couldn’t as Dave lives with his mother and does not have any assets. Russ Lowry indicated that his attorney was trying to find Dave Graham to retrieve files he stole from Fathem and Reality Bar Crawl when he was fired. Dave Graham’s last known address is 855 Costal Beach Rd., Henderson, NV 89015 <P>Instead of apologizing for breaching our contact and offering to work things out, David Graham threatened us: <P>“If [you] feel the urgency to report Reality Bar Crawl to the Better Business Bureau that is its prerogative. Reality Bar Crawl is not a member of the bureau and Reality Bar Crawl will respond with a nuisance claim against [your company] as it is creating a filibuster in order to defame the name of Reality Bar Crawl…<BR> <BR>If [your company] files suit against Reality Bar Crawl, Reality Bar Crawl will have no choice then to respond accordingly. Reality Bar Crawl will also file suit against [your company] for libel and slander. Also, it will use to the best of its ability its national television commercials, national television show, DVD series, calendar, over 100 live events planned for Spring '05 to give its honest and fair opinion only that [your company] is not a company to do business…”<BR> <BR>Anyone who uses the word “filibuster” in a sentence has obviously been down this road before. As you’ll see in other reports, they have multiple suits pending. Dave Graham spent more time writing this three page, threatening document than he did in the entire 6 months he was supposed to be promoting our product. <P>Dave Graham now has his own “promotions” company. Beware! <P>For additional information, on David Graham, Fathem Entertainment, Reality Bar Crawl, Russ Lowry and Greg Heyne, see the all the Reports on this and other sites including Rip-Off Report and Bogus Operation, that detail Lies, Threats, Theft, Breach of Contract, Mismanagement, Misrepresentation, Lawsuits, etc.<P> <P> <BR></FONT></TD></TR><TR bgcolor="#f7f7f7"><TD valign=top><FONT SIZE="2" FACE="Arial, Verdana">RXL Dave Graham</FONT></TD><TD><FONT SIZE="2" FACE="Arial, Verdana">A client of mine passed this website on to me in order to safeguard me against any future posts. I wasn't quite sure what these type of sites were, but upon reading other posts, I realize its a way for people to vent their frustrations, without legal recourse.<P>In regards to Mark Frank of Cleveland, OH and his company ShotLuge. David Graham had the unfortunate experience of working with ShotLuge for a short time. Its a product, which sounds absolutely great in theory, but once you view the actual product, you'll see it that is extremely inferior, not a product the majority of bar owners would like to purchase and its significantly overpriced.<P>Mark Frank, if the story needs to be told, contacted David's former company, via an email. They conversed a few times, checked out their website and decided to put a deal together. There were a large amount of needs ShotLuge needed. They were provided with a constant updated list of clubs, their email addresses and phone numbers. They were given signage at the event, on the vehicles, banner space and several other items, too lengthy to list. <P>The tour ran over 140 dates. About 45 of those dates were with one company, who owns multiple clubs, another 20 were with a single-owner company, another 10 with a single-owner company and 40 independents, sometimes repeated twice. Overall there were 60 companies they contacted. Out of those 60 companies, only 2 purchased their product, here is why.<P>The product with shipping is over $400. Then the client has to purchase ice, this can range between $100 and $200 for the ice block and to have it carved. They also need these straws. A box of 200 straws is $75 (which is extremely overpriced). Overall for a bar to buy the product and use it once, its close to $750. To use it again its $200 to $300. A bar then has to use alcohol, hire someone to sell the shots and in end its not worth it. <P>The product was actually put on the road and brought to over 30 venues. It was demo'ed. However bar owners didn't respond to the product.<P>The sponsorship was for one tour and one tour only. ShotLuge via Mark Frank asked for the sponsorship to be extended. They paid for a one-tour sponsorship. They received a one-tour sponsorship. They wanted more. They wanted what they didn't pay for.<P>Mark Frank is extremely unprofessional. He doesn't understand the basic principles of marketing. His product is far inferior. In over 10 years of business, you'd think the product would be successful, but it's not. Its too expensive. When the product was finally viewed , it was borderline embarrassing. It's a high-grade plastic, but thats it. It weighs over 50 lbs, has two black poles that hold it up, and a light source that goes around it. It looks like something a bunch of high school kids came up with in their garage.<P>In regards to Mark Frank's personal jabs. David Graham left Reality Bar Crawl of his own accord. He left via a dispute with a talent coming to Spring Break. He knew his partners were suffocating the business, stealing every penny and worse were the shadiest business people you have ever met. The choice was his to leave, he was not fired, you cannot be fired from something you own (or thought you owned, you can on the other hand walk away, hence the seperation agreement. Russ Lowry was recently arrested in Dallas, TX for stealing a tour bus from Microsoft/Dell (Long Story).<P>Mark Frank has zero facts correct. David Graham spends 80% of his time on the road traveling, his parents are nice enough to store his belongings, receive his mail and care for his pets, while traveling. If someone spends over 300 days a year on the road what else should they do.<P>In regards to BMG (Bar Management Group). It was David's client prior a relationship with the other two principles in RBC. It was David's decision to drop BMG as a client, after finally telling its VP of Operations, he was tired of their lies, scamming money via booking events, cancelling them and then still charging the inflated door charge and making the talent look bad.<P>As far as anything past February, 2005. He was not prevy to any conversation. There are no "files" that are owed to RBC. David started RBC, he fostered it and unfortunately he found two of the worst people to do business with and the other partner company (BMG) was the worst to do business with.<P>This is all in the past. Mark Frank needs to get over the name calling. If this was such a large issue, why did it take almost 14 months to make a post such as this.<P>Also, in 11 months of doing business, there isn't a single complaint against my business practices. My company is 100% successful and we have clients in numerous states. We have sponsors, which we push via radio, flyers and other promotional means and they're receiving great responses, mostly because they have a superior, low-cost product that people actually want to buy.<P>In regards to use of the word filibuster. Any college degreed person can tell you its not an uncommon word. Try a course in Poly Sci 101 and you'll learn its meaning.<P>Lastly, please refrain from publishing the physical address of any family members of David Graham. Again, while its not illegal, its immoral, if someone has a problem with someone, then its to be discussed.<P>Russ Lowry and Greg Heyne took 100% of your money. David Graham had zero control of finances, which any talent of Real World/Road Rules will tell you. He didn't tour beyond a few appearances after the 2nd tour. He was never in control of promotions or marketing, that was Russ Lowry, Greg Heyne and BMG. <P>Mark Frank needs to vent his frustrations at the people that deserve it. If Russ Lowry/Greg Heyne lied to you, strung you along for 6 months, take it up with them. Unfortunately, I had to be the person who did the paperwork and contract, but they received the benefits of it. If you're taking the word of a now-arrested person, then that is your choice.<P>Also, Mark Frank puts in the responses of David Graham, but leaves out his accusations and threats. They were very unprofessional and extremely slanderous.<P>Good luck in your future endeavors, you sincerely need them. Please do not bother him again with another post.<P>Sincerely,<P>David Graham - <P></FONT></TD></TR><TR bgcolor="#dedede"><TD valign=top><FONT SIZE="2" FACE="Arial, Verdana">Zeus_Daughter_2</FONT></TD><TD><FONT SIZE="2" FACE="Arial, Verdana"> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Verdana">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by RXL Dave Graham:<BR><B>A client of mine passed this website on to me in order to safeguard me against any future posts. I wasn't quite sure what these type of sites were, but upon reading other posts, I realize its a way for people to vent their frustrations, without legal recourse.<P>In regards to Mark Frank of Cleveland, OH and his company ShotLuge. David Graham had the unfortunate experience of working with ShotLuge for a short time. Its a product, which sounds absolutely great in theory, but once you view the actual product, you'll see it that is extremely inferior, not a product the majority of bar owners would like to purchase and its significantly overpriced.<P>Mark Frank, if the story needs to be told, contacted David's former company, via an email. They conversed a few times, checked out their website and decided to put a deal together. There were a large amount of needs ShotLuge needed. They were provided with a constant updated list of clubs, their email addresses and phone numbers. They were given signage at the event, on the vehicles, banner space and several other items, too lengthy to list. <P>The tour ran over 140 dates. About 45 of those dates were with one company, who owns multiple clubs, another 20 were with a single-owner company, another 10 with a single-owner company and 40 independents, sometimes repeated twice. Overall there were 60 companies they contacted. Out of those 60 companies, only 2 purchased their product, here is why.<P>The product with shipping is over $400. Then the client has to purchase ice, this can range between $100 and $200 for the ice block and to have it carved. They also need these straws. A box of 200 straws is $75 (which is extremely overpriced). Overall for a bar to buy the product and use it once, its close to $750. To use it again its $200 to $300. A bar then has to use alcohol, hire someone to sell the shots and in end its not worth it. <P>The product was actually put on the road and brought to over 30 venues. It was demo'ed. However bar owners didn't respond to the product.<P>The sponsorship was for one tour and one tour only. ShotLuge via Mark Frank asked for the sponsorship to be extended. They paid for a one-tour sponsorship. They received a one-tour sponsorship. They wanted more. They wanted what they didn't pay for.<P>Mark Frank is extremely unprofessional. He doesn't understand the basic principles of marketing. His product is far inferior. In over 10 years of business, you'd think the product would be successful, but it's not. Its too expensive. When the product was finally viewed , it was borderline embarrassing. It's a high-grade plastic, but thats it. It weighs over 50 lbs, has two black poles that hold it up, and a light source that goes around it. It looks like something a bunch of high school kids came up with in their garage.<P>In regards to Mark Frank's personal jabs. David Graham left Reality Bar Crawl of his own accord. He left via a dispute with a talent coming to Spring Break. He knew his partners were suffocating the business, stealing every penny and worse were the shadiest business people you have ever met. The choice was his to leave, he was not fired, you cannot be fired from something you own (or thought you owned, you can on the other hand walk away, hence the seperation agreement. Russ Lowry was recently arrested in Dallas, TX for stealing a tour bus from Microsoft/Dell (Long Story).<P>Mark Frank has zero facts correct. David Graham spends 80% of his time on the road traveling, his parents are nice enough to store his belongings, receive his mail and care for his pets, while traveling. If someone spends over 300 days a year on the road what else should they do.<P>In regards to BMG (Bar Management Group). It was David's client prior a relationship with the other two principles in RBC. It was David's decision to drop BMG as a client, after finally telling its VP of Operations, he was tired of their lies, scamming money via booking events, cancelling them and then still charging the inflated door charge and making the talent look bad.<P>As far as anything past February, 2005. He was not prevy to any conversation. There are no "files" that are owed to RBC. David started RBC, he fostered it and unfortunately he found two of the worst people to do business with and the other partner company (BMG) was the worst to do business with.<P>This is all in the past. Mark Frank needs to get over the name calling. If this was such a large issue, why did it take almost 14 months to make a post such as this.<P>Also, in 11 months of doing business, there isn't a single complaint against my business practices. My company is 100% successful and we have clients in numerous states. We have sponsors, which we push via radio, flyers and other promotional means and they're receiving great responses, mostly because they have a superior, low-cost product that people actually want to buy.<P>In regards to use of the word filibuster. Any college degreed person can tell you its not an uncommon word. Try a course in Poly Sci 101 and you'll learn its meaning.<P>Lastly, please refrain from publishing the physical address of any family members of David Graham. Again, while its not illegal, its immoral, if someone has a problem with someone, then its to be discussed.<P>Russ Lowry and Greg Heyne took 100% of your money. David Graham had zero control of finances, which any talent of Real World/Road Rules will tell you. He didn't tour beyond a few appearances after the 2nd tour. He was never in control of promotions or marketing, that was Russ Lowry, Greg Heyne and BMG. <P>Mark Frank needs to vent his frustrations at the people that deserve it. If Russ Lowry/Greg Heyne lied to you, strung you along for 6 months, take it up with them. Unfortunately, I had to be the person who did the paperwork and contract, but they received the benefits of it. If you're taking the word of a now-arrested person, then that is your choice.<P>Also, Mark Frank puts in the responses of David Graham, but leaves out his accusations and threats. They were very unprofessional and extremely slanderous.<P>Good luck in your future endeavors, you sincerely need them. Please do not bother him again with another post.<P>Sincerely,<P>David Graham - <P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P></FONT></TD></TR></TABLE>
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